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How’s that trade working out? (V)

So, who would you rather have seen pitching against the Blue Jays today? Bronson Arroyo or Lenny DiNardo? How about in the 12th inning of last night’s loss? Arroyo or Rudy Seanez? Hmmm. I guess I’d have to say Arroyo, based on his latest.

And let me respond in advance to the comments I know are coming. I like Theo. I’m glad he’s back. He’s done a lot more good than harm, and I’m confident he’ll continue to do so. But this was a bad trade, and that holds true even if Wily Mo Peña becomes a bona fide major-league ballplayer over the next couple of years. I mean, the Sox are trying to win this year, right?

There is no such thing as too much pitching. Period.


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14 Comments

  1. Anonymous

    That’s OK. They’ll fork over $12 million for Roger Clemens.

  2. Don

    Just wait until Bronson becomes overinvolved with his band–rock and roll. Then you may miss Wily (Is that pronounced “wily” or “Willie?” Does he know?)

  3. mike_b1

    There is also no such thing as a journalist who understand math. Period.

  4. Mark

    Dan,Can we just move on? I mean, sheesh. There are good trades and bad trades (the Sox made their share of the latter leading up to the 2004 championship; where do I start that list?). This one appears to be bad, but the team will go on.

  5. Anonymous

    Mike, such arrogance. Which part of the math are we (speaking for Dan and myself) not getting here? Please – math based on predictions for the future doesn’t count.

  6. mike_b1

    Arrogance? Hardly. One simply cannot make the projections Dan is making, whether it be for the season or over the life of the deal, based on one month’s (which in Arroyo’s case means 4 games!) worth of data. The sample size is too small. Dan wouldn’t want his career to be judged by 4 blog entries picked at random, but he’s willing to do that here. A professor at Northeastern should know better.

  7. Dan Kennedy

    Hey, Mike — Four-game sample my, uh, rear end. Here are Arroyo’s career numbers, in case you’ve forgotten:W 36L 33ERA 4.52G 130IP 615K 389BB 195You know what? The Red Sox could use a guy like that!

  8. mike_b1

    Fair enough, Dan, but that’s league average stuff. It’s not all that hard to replace.Moreover — and you must have missed this — the Red Sox’ team ERA so far this year is 4.04, which means if Arroyo was pitching to his historical norm, he’d be below team average.

  9. Mark

    Okay, boys. Can we close the book on this?

  10. Anonymous

    Mark – No!

  11. Anonymous

    mike_b1 = mike_a zeroStats in bb do not predict winners and losers. Character predicts winners.

  12. mike_b1

    I haven’t the slightest clue what your weird algebra means, but will say that I’m not one to get upset over an snide anonymous posting on a modestly trafficked weblog.And yes, stats do predict winners and losers.

  13. Anonymous

    Dan, correction: There is no such thing as *enough* pitching.

  14. Anonymous

    DanThis is sad. AMerica is burning, another 911 is being planned and organized right now, and all you can do is blog about stupid baseball sports trades? This is why America is going down the tubes fast. All you care about is your own pleassure and silly boys games. We are in serious trouble with the outside world, ROME is burning, and all you care about is baseball. Sad sad day in America. The Terror Boys are goona attack again soon and there won’t even be an America to PLAY BALL. Wake up Dan Kennedy!

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